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| chris Regular Member  Joined: 24/08/2020 Location: United KingdomPosts: 56 |
Hello, I'm wondering how many CMM2 units are estimated to be in the wild? Is there any way to tell? Personally I don't really care if there are not that many as CMM2 isn't a machine you use to play software, there are plenty of other machines for that. It's a machine that you get a thrill out of tinkering with and finding ways to exploit the power of. But, it would be nice to have a community of a few thousand others rather than a few hundred. Chris |
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Chopperp Guru  Joined: 03/01/2018 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1097 |
It would be interesting. This forum has certainly come to life since it's introduction, so there's quite a few out there. One supplier did mention that he has supplied more than a 100 of them. I think another has put on more staff to meet demand. I suspect it would be a commercial in-confidence thingy to expect the main suppliers to give actual figures. Brian ChopperP |
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bigmik Guru Joined: 20/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2950 |
GDay All, I am happy to say that I have shipped 13 fully built (Mick Assembled) CMM2 with about 4 sets of PCB or semi built kits. Plus an individual 3 I bought initially with another 'shedder. So that should make about 20 originating from me. I also have 3 fully built, ready for good homes, sitting on the shelf. (Hint Hint Hint)  Kind Regards Mick Mick's uMite Stuff can be found >>> HERE (Kindly hosted by Dontronics) <<< |
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Grogster Admin Group  Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9610 |
Well, I myself have sold well over 100 units. I'm not going to state exact numbers, but suffice it to say - they sold extremely well. It has been INCREDIBLY popular, which is always great for business, but I really did not expect that to be the case. Not cos it is not a great unit - it is - but more that you can never judge the market demand for something before you actually release it. I underestimated demand at my end. I would hazard a guess that all us suppliers did. I even ended up buying five of those 'Pizza order' holder things full of marbles, that hold your orders, so I could keep them all in the correct order, so units were sent out in the order they were received. Despite CV19, the orders were in great numbers. Again, certainly not complaining, but I honestly did not think it would take off like it did, ESPECIALLY cos of the economic climate during the virus. The sales of this unit, has basically kept my business afloat during the craziness that is 2020.... Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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Poppy Guru Joined: 25/07/2019 Location: GermanyPosts: 486 |
Probably just because! Many people are just sitting at home having more free time than they wanted to have not gotten busted economically ... yet! Actually some dozens do not sound very much to me and most users are just attracted by those new gaming capabilities, most of those will jump off quite soon again ... I assume. But Sold is Gold! ... it is still the beginning!  ---- PS: Forgot the Action!  Edited 2020-09-02 22:30 by Poppy  Andre ... such a GURU? | ||||
| Pilot352 Newbie  Joined: 12/08/2020 Location: United StatesPosts: 34 |
At least one. :) |
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RetroJoe Senior Member  Joined: 06/08/2020 Location: CanadaPosts: 290 |
Congrats! I would argue that it’s because of CV19 that you’ve seen such awesome demand. Nintendo posted record earnings and the Switch is on chronic back order because people are cooped up at home. The CMM2 is much cheaper and a lot more fun than a Switch if you are a hobbyist instead of a “consumer” :) I am also a RPi fanboy, and the price/performance of a RPi is dramatically better than a CMM2, but it’s a different market. I had had my eye on the Colour Maximite since I saw the Eight Bit Guy demo the original model, but it was the CMM2 that convinced me to make the plunge - very happy I did! I bought a prebuilt CMM2 from Circuit Gizmos with surface mount stuff (very happy with it, BTW), and a bare PCB to build a second one on my own. I recently picked up the Waveshare module, but then noticed Geoff has redesigned the PCB to use SIP resistors, which seems much more elegant (I’m reminded of the Steve Wozniak story about him spending an entire 48 hour weekend re laying out the double-sided Disk ][ controller card to reduce the number of vias from five to four before it went into production). I now have half a mind to make the plunge, and do the full-on “maker” thing and get a batch of five or ten PCBs printed up locally. I think a home-made CMM2 kit would be make a great Christmas gift for the “guy who has everything” :) Enjoy Every Sandwich / Joe P. |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 10315 |
The SIP resistors of the correct value are hard to source and only available in largish quantities. For that reason the version with the discrete resistors is still the preferred option and certainly best for one-off builds |
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| RetroJoe Senior Member Joined: 06/08/2020 Location: CanadaPosts: 290 |
Thanks for the heads-up, Peter - I had not yet started to look into component sourcing. It seems that fully “kitting” a DIY CMM2 is a challenge in general, but per some of my earlier comments, that’s part of the “fun” :) P.S. Somewhat related, I flashed 5.05.05 yesterday with my shiny store-bought USB A-A; as a direct result of my new CMM2 hobby, I discovered an awesome electronics supply store here in Montreal (Abra) that is a geek Mecca. If there are any other Montreal Maximiters out there, please let me know - apart from the absolute number of units extant in the world, it would be at least as interesting to know how many countries and cities it has “infiltrated” :) Thanks for another great release - so far, it’s running like a charm. But, I did observe that opening a graphics file directly from the file browser seems to open it in MODE 1,16, whereas doing a LOAD from MMBasic does it in the the default MODE 1,8. This might have always been the case and I’m just noticing it now, but I didn’t see that behaviour documented anywhere, so thought I would mention it (FYI, specifying MODE 1,16 prior to the LOAD works exactly as expected). Enjoy Every Sandwich / Joe P. |
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| RetroJoe Senior Member Joined: 06/08/2020 Location: CanadaPosts: 290 |
Oops, posted the same message twice - is there way to Delete a post rather than Edit it? Edited 2020-09-03 04:44 by jpusztai Enjoy Every Sandwich / Joe P. |
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| HellbentHorse Regular Member Joined: 08/07/2020 Location: AustraliaPosts: 55 |
I can certainly account for one here which I'll be building this weekend (good way to spend father's day I think ) |
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| JoOngle Regular Member Joined: 25/07/2020 Location: SwedenPosts: 82 |
With this thread + the https://www.thebackshed.com/forum/ViewTopic.php?FID=16&TID=12683 thread, I'd say we're nearing 1000 units now :D that's insane. CMM2 is going to be a cult-computer. |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2944 |
FYI - I have personally supplied about 750 (via website and email enquiries). On that basis I would reckon circa 2000 taking into account Rob and Graeme's numbers too (as well as 'self-builds'). |
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| Poppy Guru Joined: 25/07/2019 Location: GermanyPosts: 486 |
But not exceeding this relative tiny internet-bubble we are partly inhabiting here. I guess most buyers do act like this: Wow great, retro-stuff, bling-bling, exciting ... next please! Time will show! Edited 2020-09-04 18:27 by Poppy Andre ... such a GURU? | ||||
| JoOngle Regular Member Joined: 25/07/2020 Location: SwedenPosts: 82 |
Not sure about that, this forum has literally exploded since I got here. Besides, a lot of us paid like 130 bucks for this thing, we intend to get the most out of it, I just connected it to my 75" inch screen just to have a little programmer ready for me when I feel like getting creative. |
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| Poppy Guru Joined: 25/07/2019 Location: GermanyPosts: 486 |
Yes of course, but just relatively and not absolutely! But it is not a C-64, it is even much better, but it is not the time that was some decades ago. Yes, but I don´t think that this represents the majority. But the technical basis is here and hopefully the social development will follow! Andre ... such a GURU? | ||||
| JoOngle Regular Member Joined: 25/07/2020 Location: SwedenPosts: 82 |
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| Poppy Guru Joined: 25/07/2019 Location: GermanyPosts: 486 |
So let´s say the community also got a firm soil and now rain, sunlight and warmth will make the growing!  Andre ... such a GURU? | ||||
| RetroJoe Senior Member Joined: 06/08/2020 Location: CanadaPosts: 290 |
+1 on the awesomeness. At first, I was a little put off by the TBS forum platform (BTW, is there a way to see newest posts in a thread first?), but it’s grown on me. It matches the “essentials only” and retro character of the Maximite, and is certainly as robust. I was looking at some posts from nearly a decade ago - pretty cool to see that even the original monochrome model generated quite a buzz. Enjoy Every Sandwich / Joe P. |
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| Poppy Guru Joined: 25/07/2019 Location: GermanyPosts: 486 |
The Original Maximite still is a great tool for electronics, its cloned substitute the Duinomite - being easier available - still does a good job on this for me. Just imagine running an upgraded Arduino but easily programmed in MMBasic. PS: Forgot the Action! .. .. Edited 2020-09-05 23:19 by Poppy Andre ... such a GURU? | ||||
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