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Poppy

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Posted: 05:10am 09 Oct 2021
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IF not mentioned yet ...

Germany 2021:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doKSUemZ8HA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb4GTozEtGE
Andre ... such a GURU?
 
Mixtel90

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Posted: 09:32am 09 Oct 2021
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That made me wish I'd taken German at school. lol
It's nice to see that BASIC isn't dead in an educational environment. After all, that's what it was originally intended for.
Mick

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JohnS
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Posted: 10:35am 09 Oct 2021
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Anything in English? I found Academic BASIC to be about the Bible!!

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Tinine
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Posted: 03:52pm 09 Oct 2021
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  JohnS said  Anything in English? I found Academic BASIC to be about the Bible!!

John


   
 
phil99

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Posted: 10:22pm 09 Oct 2021
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"It's nice to see that BASIC isn't dead in an educational environment."

My first contact with BASIC was EduBASIC on a DEC PDP8 Mini Computer - the size of a refrigerator. The terminal was a Teletype machine with paper tape attachment. Both EduBASIC and the machine were truly basic.
 
Mixtel90

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Posted: 06:47am 10 Oct 2021
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My first contact was on my Nascom-1. That machine had 2 EPROM sockets, which were used by the monitor. Luckily one small supplier could offer an additional board for the NASBUS that would take the Nascom-2 8kB BASIC ROM.

So a minimal system consisting of a Nascom-1 (with T2 or T4 monitor), Buffer board (to convert the Nascom-1 to NASBUS), a 3-slot NASBUS motherboard, a 4kB (or was it 8k?) RAM board and the new EPROM board could be put together (with the keyboard, TV, cassette recorder and optional(!) power supply, of course).

If you wanted to get rid of having to use EDIT <line_number> all the time you could get proper on-screen editing with a few modifications: Swap your existing monitor for the new NasSys monitor (to get cursor key support) and modify your Nascom-1 keyboard by adding additional keys to it (the spaces were already there).

If you were rich (or hadn't already spent all your money on Nascom-1 kit) you could get a Nascom-2, of course, which already had BASIC on-board. It should have had enough RAM on board too, but due to world-wide shortages of that RAM chip, the first ones were supplied with a free memory board.

Later, one of the Nascom magazines ran a monthly listing of the Nascom 8k BASIC ROM, so effectively Microsoft 8k BASIC 4.7 for the Z80 became available to anyone for free, if they were willing to mess with it a bit. :)  That version is still around on the internet and has been used on a few projects now.
Edited 2021-10-10 17:01 by Mixtel90
Mick

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IanT

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Posted: 08:14am 10 Oct 2021
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I wasn't exactly rich at the time (and I'm still not) but I did "build" a Nascom II and then spent a day (and night) tracking down all the dry joints. I was truly quite emotional and very tired when I finally managed to get the red LED blinking on and off at one second intervals. My girlfriend (now wife) was completely baffled by all the fuss.

Recently found a Nasbus Z80 CPU and two 256k memory boards I must have got from somewhere (never used them) but I wish I'd kept the Nascom which disappeared somewhere/sometime along the way in the past 40+ years....

Regards,

IanT
 
Mixtel90

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Posted: 08:25am 10 Oct 2021
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There's an active Nascom group Here  if you're interested. You may be able to find a Nascom-2 (they are NOT cheap now!) or a buyer for those bits. One of the members has now produced the Nascom-4 - a new interpretation on a FPGA, but with SDcard storage and a lot of compatibility.
Edited 2021-10-10 18:35 by Mixtel90
Mick

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twofingers

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Posted: 09:04am 10 Oct 2021
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FYI:
The second video shows an ECG (a kind of) for a Maximite based on an AD8232. Peter already presented something like this here 1/2019. It reminded me that I still had the components in the box unused. It should be easy to convert to the newer Mites (CMM2, Armmite F4, Picomite). Something for a little winter project ...

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Michael
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IanT

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Posted: 08:09am 11 Oct 2021
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Not sure I'm going to dive back into 8-bits after all this time Mick but I have applied to join the Group - so you never know.

At the very least I know where to find a good home for anything I have (Nasbus related) that I don't want anymore. In theory, I'm trying to downsize a bit!  

Thanks & Regards,

IanT
 
Volhout
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Posted: 09:18am 11 Oct 2021
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Instructive video's !!!

The 3'rd video (with digital filtering) did not appear.
Probably because he is running on the edge of what a 80MHz MM can do (every 10ms draw a box, draw a line, measure and ADC value, and some math).
The filtering will probably not be possible, unless it is a very simple PID alike based on 3 samples.

Volhout
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Poppy

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Posted: 09:26am 11 Oct 2021
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  Volhout said  
The 3'rd video (with digital filtering) did not appear.


Which one exactly, I cant follow, please tell the URL or link.
Andre ... such a GURU?
 
Volhout
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Posted: 11:36am 11 Oct 2021
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Video 1 is from Jan 2021
Video 2 is from Feb 2021
In video 2 he announces video 3, where he will add digital filtering.
Video 3 did not show on Youtube until now (Okt 2021, 8 months later).

I guess he did not succeed, and changed subject for the next video...

Volhout
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Poppy

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Posted: 12:57pm 11 Oct 2021
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Thanks.

Surely this issue was just secondary.
As he says in the video he was just surprised how powerful MMBASIC and therefore easy to use it is.

Probably someone should tell him about the PICOMITE ...
Andre ... such a GURU?
 
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