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| Tinine Guru  Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
Anyone tried it? Because I use Black Viper's optimizations for my DAWs (digital audio workstation) This also caught my attention Craig |
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Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7937 |
Very eenteresteeng... Nope, not tried it. I do have Ungoogled Chromium browser, though, which is nice. :) Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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Romeo Newbie  Joined: 11/02/2022 Location: FrancePosts: 24 |
Mhhh...call me paranoid if you wish, but this 'web site' ONLY providing a link to a torrent, without anything else, no community-based forum or whatever, sounds suspicious to me. You may scan the content of the downloaded ISO file with an antivirus, because this is the perfect way to distribute custom OS releases crooked with rootkits. My thoughts. |
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| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
And Windows 10 isn't spyware in disguise? Warnings about this sort of thing are usually quick to appear. My interest is in a leaner OS for MMB4W I guess W98 is out of the question? I tried their XP lite many years ago and it worked out well. Craig Edit: How cool would that 98-embedded be. 3 to 10 seconds boot time. Edited 2022-02-19 21:49 by Tinine |
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| Romeo Newbie Joined: 11/02/2022 Location: FrancePosts: 24 |
Maybe trying ReactOS, very small footprint. About fast boot time, WinCE was the best, alas it is dead now. |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4044 |
I'm puzzled as to why you care much about (Windows) boot time - do you boot often & if so why? John |
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| Romeo Newbie Joined: 11/02/2022 Location: FrancePosts: 24 |
(many) Years ago, Windows was the real time embedded OS used on many handled devices, thus booting time was critical as no one wanted to wait 1 minute gazing stupidly at a blank screen before the device could be usable. So having a quick-to-boot OS launching an app (for ex: a GPS) is still useful, just nowadays it is Embedded Linux the leader, as MS killed its own product line. Thats why MMBasic running bare-metal (well, not exactly) on an MCU is very attractive (to me, but I think you asking this question to the OP). |
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| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
My most extreme and ridiculous example: CCOHS (Canadian Occupational Health/Safety) dictates that "all forms of energy must be isolated" when personnel need to enter guarded areas of a machine. Each time that tooling dies are switched, mechanical tweaking is required to achieve the desired quality. These clowns don't care about the fact that the computer is as harmless as a desktop/laptop PC, energy must be removed. This gets old, real quick. In general: Maintenance/troubleshooting requires cutting the power. When production is on your back to get the equipment up and running, that boot-time is an eternity. I switched away from Windows for the above reasons. MCUs, no problem. My Android tablet HMI, just remove it from the area. Craig Edited 2022-02-20 00:22 by Tinine |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4044 |
Is the RPi boot time not quick enough? It can be very fast, especially if you avoid the developer-type distros. John |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7937 |
It's FPGA time. :) Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
I keep meaning to ask but I really haven't followed the RPi development and am therefore quite ignorant. From what I understand, the issue is with GPIO? Well, isn't MMB4W limited to serial interfacing? So yeah, if that's the only issue, I can live with serial all day long  Having stated that; one thing that I seem to recall is that serial com's were a bit flaky? Maybe that was resolved. Craig |
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| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
Just had a look at geoffg.net and can't help but feel that the RPi is the red headed step-child. Does it need to be? |
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thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4311 |
MMB4L is at alpha 3 and at the moment rather undercooked. The serial comms are flakey (and will be in alpha 4 too) and GPIO only exists in @lizby's prototype. Hopefully it will all come together eventually, but I only have a couple of hours a week to spend on it at the moment. Best wishes, Tom MMBasic for Linux, Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4044 |
Yes - but be that VERY RARE person and create hardware INCLUDING I/O compatible with existing H/W and I/O so that porting software (MMBasic) is trivially easy. DO NOT do what every other well-intentioned IDIOT has done. John |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4044 |
MMB4L serial comms are probably plenty good enough for typical uses. John |
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| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
We have on-chip programming. A PIC32MX170 or a Picomite at each node on a serial network, makes for a very powerful system. The master doesn't need to handle all the logic because the network nodes can handle certain things locally. Master: "Do this" Slave: "Done" On chip programming facilitates rapid development of the node-code :) Craig |
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hitsware2 Guru Joined: 03/08/2019 Location: United StatesPosts: 719 |
Do You mean MMBasic on RPi ? my site |
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| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
Yeah, I'm getting confused. Is MMB4L the new MMBasic 4 RPi? Craig |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4044 |
Hope so. John |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7937 |
@Craig MMB4L is MMBasic for Linux - Tom's baby. MMB4W (as it seems to be getting known) is MMBasic for Windows - Peter's current baby. The PicoMite is a Raspberry Pi Pico running a (officially completed) port of MMBasic. (Note, it's the Pico, not a "normal" Raspberry Pi) It's fast, cheap and currently easily obtainable. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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