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Grogster

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Posted: 07:04am 10 Mar 2022
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This is quite entertaining:

Blowing up capacitors
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Mixtel90

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Posted: 07:47am 10 Mar 2022
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Brilliant! Now we know why those little vent areas are so important.
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Yeah, I always knew WHY they were there, but awesome to see them doing what they were designed to do.

The smaller values WITHOUT the pressure relief stampings were most impressive in ultra-slow-mo.  
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Posted: 08:18am 10 Mar 2022
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Wauw, never seen that before. Nice....
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Mixtel90

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Makes me wonder what a *proper* capacitor would do - say 10,000uF  :)
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Grogster

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Posted: 08:24am 10 Mar 2022
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Yeah, I would LOVE to see a 10,000uF cap in slo-mo.
Perhaps we should suggest it to them.
Might be more like a bomb then a bang though!!!

Hell, let's go to the 1F super-caps!!!!  
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That would blow away the camera. But you do not need this high speed, it goes much slower. And you need significantly more current. The variable transformer they use would simply blow the fuse.

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Godoh
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Posted: 06:19am 11 Mar 2022
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I used to teach at TAFE part time many years ago.
After telling students to be very careful to make sure their circuits were the correct polarity, guess what , some still managed to connect electrolytic caps back the front.
A few were caught in time but one student managed to leave his circuit on during morning tea, ( I think it was on purpose) and yep it exploded.
We did not have a slow motion camera to record it but the room had a lot of smoke and smelt for quite a while.
I often wonder what would happen if my bank of 500 Farad capacitors let go. They are in parallel with my batteries on our stand alone solar system.
They work wonderfully, soaking up starting currents on induction motors really well.
I did put a 250 amp fuse on them, hopefully that will catch them before they head off to bring down low orbit satellites.
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I love the smell of a blown electrolytic in the morning.
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KD5ZXG
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I wouldn't trust a single fuse of any Amperage. An entire bank discharging through the first cap or battery to fail totally bypasses such protection. Each wants a modest individual fuse to the buss that only together can pass large Amps.
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Mixtel90

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The possibility of a single device in the bank failing to a low resistance is severely scary when all the rest can discharge through it. ULP!
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Grogster

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You know what is funny and somewhat ironic?

I had a wireless decoder board to service today, and it was totally dead.
I had replacements, so I plopped one of those in there, and powered up.

BANG!  

A cap on the PSU input was installed back-to-front, and so it blew it's top just like those in the videos.  

Quite a shock though, physically.
They do make quite an impressive "POP!" when they go if you are not expecting it!!!

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Posted: 12:13pm 11 Mar 2022
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  KD5ZXG said  I wouldn't trust a single fuse of any Amperage. An entire bank discharging through the first cap or battery to fail totally bypasses such protection. Each wants a modest individual fuse to the buss that only together can pass large Amps.

Wow - good catch!

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I am not sure how the capacitors are connected as they came in two 12 volt banks
They are shrink wrapped and have some sort of balancing circuitry on them.
I guess I could put a fuse between the two series banks as well. But taking the packs of series connected caps apart would not be easy.
Originally the capacitor banks are used to start trains.
I will  have a look again at them and see if there is a way to add more protection.
Any suggestions welcome
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Posted: 09:29pm 11 Mar 2022
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I just had a look online at the banks I have, they are 16 volt banks and I have two of them as my system is 24 volt.
There is a youtube video by an electrical engineer on safety of them, so I will look at it. Some of the installations on youtube look far scarier than mine.
Still I would like to make sure that the system is safe.
Thanks for jogging the thinking bones
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