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andreas Senior Member  Joined: 07/12/2020 Location: GermanyPosts: 226 |
Others may use electrons, I prefer paper  Colour print, 120 grams, high gloss     I'm feeling like Christmas! -andreas Edited 2022-10-13 00:40 by andreas |
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| Tinine Guru  Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
I really need to do this. Pretty much every night, I read my tablet in bed and all too often I fall asleep and the tablet drops on my face  . Good thing I have a soft rubber protector on it.Craig |
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stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2566 |
Laser printers use electrons and I think all printers use them??? There used to be office laser printers that you could print a pcb and "iron" on a pcb. I got an epson and tried reset on the inks, worked but still expensive for printing the mmb manual. |
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Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7937 |
I have a Brother colour laser printer (originally chosen because they produce proper drivers for linux). Although they cost more than an inkjet you get a heck of a lot of prints out of the toner cartridges. I got mine just after I retired five years ago and so far I've only had to replace the black toner - and a third party cartridge has worked perfectly. I've printed the manual a couple of times. I use A5 paper and print double-sided. Pages are punched with a 6-hole punch and put into a loose-leaf binder. It works out nicely and I can add extra comment pages whenever I want to. :) Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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hitsware2 Guru Joined: 03/08/2019 Location: United StatesPosts: 719 |
We recently switched to a Laser printer ( Epson ) from an inkjet ( HP ) A whole different world ! ( for the better ) my site |
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| PeterB Guru Joined: 05/02/2015 Location: AustraliaPosts: 655 |
Tinine "Good thing I have a soft rubber protector on it." Having a soft rubber protector on your face must bring other complications. e.g. eating, drinking, kissing etc.  Peter |
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| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
Actually, that would have been useful a few months ago when I got sucker-punched in the pub Craig |
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| petemig Newbie  Joined: 19/07/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 6 |
Hi folks, I'm of the old school as well as Andreas. I have always preferred a good old paper manual. With a few well placed 'post-it' notes, I find it much easier to refer back/ forwards to recap, rather than scrolling up and down a lot. I know you can set bookmarks but invariably there would be too many to be comfortable. I appreciate the work that goes into writing and keeping on top of documents but how difficult would be to add a change log (Rhetorical).. Then each time there is a new issue we could just print the relevant pages, to keep it all up to date. I'm not expecting an explanation of every change, a page number would be sufficient to either make a note in the manual or print the relevant (New) page a fresh. This might result in a couple of half pages but it's got to be better than reprinting the whole tome again. This is my first post here, I've been reading this forum for a long time now, but only just starting, hands on, since retiring earlier in the year. The whole development of the Mite family has been fascinating as are the key players. Many thanks for all your hard work & as said I'm very appreciative. PeterB, beat me to it Thank you one and all. Regards, PeteM Edited 2022-10-13 18:56 by petemig |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4044 |
I wonder if you could find the changes this way: 1. convert each manual (PDF) to text (there are tools for this) 2. compare, just to find the changed pages John |
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| Amnesie Guru Joined: 30/06/2020 Location: GermanyPosts: 671 |
Grep Regex is a program that can compare huge textfiles and filter them... But yes a change log would be cool, because every time I think "NOW I AM GONNA print out this monster of manual" but let me just wait for the next revision and changes... So I am ending up not doing it. Daniel |
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twofingers Guru Joined: 02/06/2014 Location: GermanyPosts: 1593 |
I do this with Notepad++ and a plugin. I use grep/regex to find and replace specific passages of text. PDF's are very useful because I can store thousands on my PC, search for passages of text and print them out at will - even parts. Thanks to Geoff and the other makers of the manuals. Without the manuals, the Mites would only be worth a fraction. Regards Michael causality ≠correlation ≠coincidence |
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thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4311 |
I'm in exactly this position, though I do have the considerable slimmer manual for MMBasic 4.5 printed out that I still often refer to when I forget the BASICs. Best wishes, Tom Edited 2022-10-13 19:26 by thwill MMBasic for Linux, Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| pwillard Guru Joined: 07/06/2022 Location: United StatesPosts: 313 |
I can barely function without a printed reference. Yeah, sure I can use the PDF on the screen sometimes... but my brain is wired for bound paper references. |
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| petemig Newbie Joined: 19/07/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 6 |
Hello again. Thanks for the suggestions. I will give them a try and see how easy it is to target the changes, just as soon as I've downloaded the latest version. I'm still hoping a change log can be brought in. Especially as I think the manuals ate reaching maturity and the actual changes are probably fairly small. It will be next week, now, before I can do anything signicant. Thanks again for the suggestions and obviously the s/w and h/w creators of a brilliant system. Regards PeteM |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7937 |
My main reason for printing the manual isn't primarily because I prefer it on paper (although I do), it's because I only have one monitor and, due to awkward to reach buttons screen menus and synchronising delay, it's a pain switching it between hdmi and VGA. Consequently, if I'm programming I can't see the manual or refer to the forum. I tried putting the manual on a tablet but it's such a faff using it on there - especially as it keeps timing out and switching off to save the battery. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| petemig Newbie Joined: 19/07/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 6 |
 Ditto, what I do sometimes is print out important tables or information and laminate them for scribbling on as a cheat sheet. A little bit of nail varnish remover and it's as good as new......... well she does pinch my razors so I reckon we're evens. |
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Rickard5 Guru Joined: 31/03/2022 Location: United StatesPosts: 463 |
Yeah I wanted to a paper CMM-2 Manual and a Picomite Manual, but when Kinkos said they were going to cost like $65 each, I was sad until I went to microcenter and bought 20 more Picos with the Money :) a real book would be so nice but the cost is prohibitive I may be Vulgar, but , while I'm poor, I'm Industrious, Honest, and trustworthy! I Know my Place |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7937 |
I got my Micromite manual printed by an online company. I supplied a suitably edited PDF file, filled in an online form & paid. A few days later it was delivered - and they made a nice job of it. Cheaper than getting it done at a local printers. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| Rickard5 Guru Joined: 31/03/2022 Location: United StatesPosts: 463 |
I may do that, I am Planning a few days Camping trip in November down to the Big Bend in South Texas, and 2 BIG Things I'm looking forward too is some Ham Radio time and playing with Picomite Stuff I may be Vulgar, but , while I'm poor, I'm Industrious, Honest, and trustworthy! I Know my Place |
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