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Bill.b

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Posted: 06:38pm 27 Aug 2015
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This is a link to an program that allows you to limit microsoft's access
to windows 10.

Also can turn off auto updates.

http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10/update


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BobD

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  Bill.b said   This is a link to an program that allows you to limit microsoft's access
to windows 10.

Also can turn off auto updates.

http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10/update


Bill

Have you proven that it can turn off auto updates in Win 10 home? It can be done in Win 10 pro without any special software but so far in Win 10 home it was always on.
 
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Posted: 07:13pm 27 Aug 2015
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Why would anyone want to do that?
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Kon,

In my case, if I go over my monthly allowance, I get slugged big time so I need to determine when upgrades occur. Yes, I do need to change ISP's but that is not an option right now, but it will be!!! 😂😂😂😂
Doug.

... almost all of the Maximites, the MicromMites, the MM Extremes, the ArmMites, the PicoMite and loving it!
 
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Kon
unlike Panky, I don't get slugged with money for overage downloads but my speed is dropped from 25 megabits/s to some unimaginable slowness until the end of the month. I haven't had it happen yet but I've been close because of Win 10.
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my XP netbook, that i purchased 6 years ago, has had automatic updates turned off right from the word go. it has SP3 installed, along with a single update for time zone changes. it also had all the 'bloatware' removed, and runs AVG anti-virus (which i consider to be of dubious value).

surprisingly, the world hasn't ended. the sky hasn't fallen, and plague has not wiped out my village. the cat did drop dead late last year, but i do feel that was unrelated.

we have, as a society, been trained to believe that our appliances need to be continually changed and tinkered with to continue functioning. in fact, much of that continual change is directed towards adding new features that make the appliance perform slower, and in fact largely just serve to advertise new features we could enjoy (at full speed) if we shelled out for a new appliance.


cynically,
rob :-)
 
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Rob
IMHO you are right about AVG. It sucks a lot of cycles.
Bit Defender free is more light weight.
I used to use Avira paid but found it was corrupting large downloads on all of my machines and they didn't want to know about it so they got the flick.
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@ kiiid - W10 is like no other Windows before it. It is basically a licensed spyware. As mentioned, the pro version makes it a little easier to disable some of the snooping, but in the home edition, which most people will elect to run, MS can log everything you do, look around in your machine, scan your emails for anything illegal, and even forcibly remove pirated software without your say so.

The more I read about W10, the less I want to have anything to do with it, till a good quality 3rd party program comes out that can turn off all that guff - like an "XP Anti-Spy" for W10 - same basic cause and reason.

Have a wee look at any of the plethora of YouTube videos out there such as this one:

W10 spying on you

W10: You own creepy stalker - Skip to about 6mins in
Edited by Grogster 2015-08-29
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paceman
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@ rob
Have to agree with pretty much all of that Rob - our cat is still alive though! My XP machine is even SP2 still and about 10 years old. It's certainly a lot slower than another Win7 (64 bit) machine that I bought 2 or 3 years ago, but not un-useably for most things I do, and yes, AVG is a big hog!

One thing I have done over the years is disable, or turn to 'manual' a lot of processes that were resource and/or time hogs. Occasionally I quickly found I had to re-enable one but it wasn't a big deal.

I'm afraid the old Wintel consortium is still alive, but I suppose if you're more of a 'power user' you might have to live with it.

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I have a few older machines on which i replaced the XP with MicroXP version.
It is a completely stripped down version of XP that works very well on machine with low memory.

Microblocks. Build with logic.
 
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Yes, I have also used MicroXP with great success. I used to use MicroXP as the basis of my server OS until my storage drives went up over 2TB, at which point, I moved to a Linux based server OS. While I was using it, it was very stable and super-quick, what with all the gunk stripped out.
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I'd never heard of MicroXP - I'll have to have a look at it.
 
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Well, it's not technically legal you see, being that ANY distro of XP other then the official MS one, is deemed illegal.... The last version that could be had of MicroXP was version 0.82 circa 2008, and it is a 100MB ISO download.
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Ohhhh, I see - I'd never do anything illegal!
 
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I use it for my lasercutter because the software only runs on xp.
Just use a small eeepc laptop and works great.
Also for the cnc with mach3. I have real licences anyway so it does not bother me to have a stripped down version.
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Cool! I like the discussion
For someone who just got off the car after a 7-hour drive, reading and appreciating the humour in some posts was a welcome break.

Long live W10!
(that was a joke, don't get me banned for flaming ;)

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While you are looking at XP, BartPE was a very handy tool.
You supply your XP and it creates a cut down bootable CD with a few useful tools.
I used it regularly for PC repairs.

In defense of MS and W10,
They are only following Googles lead. No one seems to care if 'Google' reads their mail.
At least with MS you don't have to create a MS account.

Jim
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Chris Roper
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  Grogster said   Well, it's not technically legal you see, being that ANY distro of XP other then the official MS one, is deemed illegal.... The last version that could be had of MicroXP was version 0.82 circa 2008, and it is a 100MB ISO download.


Deemed illegal by who?

[/rant on]
Every time I buy a new PC I have to buy a new windows Software Licence, if I use bits of those old PC's to to build a new one then surely I can also use those old licences to run XP.

I never saw an expiry date nor a clause that said it was locked to the hardware.

MS can afford lots of lawyers and use that to scare you into giving up your rights. Those same lawyers will be busy for the next few years defending the questionable rights they claim, in WIN10, against attacks from the European Union, consumer rights groups, privacy activists and competitor company's.

You don't need to feel guilty running a ~15 year old operating system that you have legally paid for many times over, even if it it is modified.

Don't fall for the FUD (Fear, Doubt, Uncertainty) that let IBM stay on top for decades until Microsoft did to them what others will now do to Microsoft.
[rant off]


Cheers
Chris

p.s. I am an MSCP but speaking here in my personal capacity, not with my MS cap on.
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An excellent 'Rant' there, Chris - rant on!

I was going to say the same, in that I still have a few unopened copies of XP, which I was going to say that you can assign one of those codes to MicroXP if you wish - that MAKES it perfectly legal then.

As to who said that - it was me.

Lawyers would argue that MicroXP is blatant software piracy, being that you can download the ISO without paying royalties for it - blah, blah, blah, etc, etc, etc.......

...you obviously know the dril....

That, and I did not want to digress from the W10 thread title too much.

As well as BartPE, there was also nLite which could do the same sort of thing - build you a cut-down windows using an authentic full copy and it's code. That is probably how MicroXP was built anyway.
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  Grogster said  I was going to say the same, in that I still have a few unopened copies of XP, which I was going to say that you can assign one of those codes to MicroXP if you wish - that MAKES it perfectly legal then.

Oh, goody! I just happen to have one of those too Grogs, so now I don't have to be naughty.

Greg
 
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