Home
JAQForum Ver 24.01
Log In or Join  
Active Topics
Local Time 11:20 01 Aug 2025 Privacy Policy
Jump to

Notice. New forum software under development. It's going to miss a few functions and look a bit ugly for a while, but I'm working on it full time now as the old forum was too unstable. Couple days, all good. If you notice any issues, please contact me.

Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : Prototyping PCB

     Page 1 of 2    
Author Message
kiiid

Guru

Joined: 11/05/2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 671
Posted: 10:28am 26 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Hi all,
Check this one out: Routaboard
Probably needless to say - one of mines

http://rittle.org

--------------
 
MM_Wombat
Senior Member

Joined: 12/12/2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 139
Posted: 10:42am 26 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Cool.

Wanted to buy one to test, but must be sold out...

MM_Wombat
Keep plugging away, it is fun learning
But can be expensive (if you keep blowing things up).

Maximite, ColourMaximite, MM+
 
Phil23
Guru

Joined: 27/03/2016
Location: Australia
Posts: 1667
Posted: 02:15am 28 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Look's like a great concept for lots of users who aren't into PCB design.

Will get my hands on a couple when they are available.

Especially like the ability to play with the layout in software, even though I had to use 2 DIP14's to represent a MicroMite.

Any Idea when they will be available?

And DIP28 added to the component library?

Thanks

Phil.

 
kiiid

Guru

Joined: 11/05/2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 671
Posted: 02:40am 28 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

You can actually define your own components.
Select the component mode (the orange icon), right click and select "Add New Component". Then choose the one on top which says "BLANK", give it a name and place the holder somewhere on the board. Now you can add and remove pins within the component area, and you can drag the pins to change the component area. So you place 28 pins, give them names or numbers and then when ready right click again and choose "Add to Library".
http://rittle.org

--------------
 
Phil23
Guru

Joined: 27/03/2016
Location: Australia
Posts: 1667
Posted: 02:49am 28 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Ahhh,

Thanks, didn't know the usage & saw that add to library was greyed out, so thought it wasn't implemented yet.

Phil.
 
kiiid

Guru

Joined: 11/05/2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 671
Posted: 02:56am 28 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Yes, I understand. A small help file is what the software needs right now.
You can also use other features in a way similar to Altium - you can rotate components with the space key when placing them on the board. And you can also move them to the other side of the board with the L key.

http://rittle.org

--------------
 
Phil23
Guru

Joined: 27/03/2016
Location: Australia
Posts: 1667
Posted: 02:57am 28 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Can I flip my 28 Pin or do I need to create a separate one for different orentations?
 
Phil23
Guru

Joined: 27/03/2016
Location: Australia
Posts: 1667
Posted: 03:05am 28 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Error on add to library.





NTFS file permissions on C:\Program File(x86)?

Not usually writable by default,
but strange as I have full permissions to the file and have ownership.

Phil
 
kiiid

Guru

Joined: 11/05/2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 671
Posted: 03:27am 28 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Looks like that. Try to run the program as administrator
Will be fixed in the next revision

http://rittle.org

--------------
 
Phil23
Guru

Joined: 27/03/2016
Location: Australia
Posts: 1667
Posted: 03:31am 28 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

That's what I'd just been trying.

Worked fine.
 
hitsware
Guru

Joined: 23/11/2012
Location: United States
Posts: 535
Posted: 06:30am 28 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

I can't find the prices ?
Looks good. I go through
dozens of the Adafruit
proto boards ..........
 
kiiid

Guru

Joined: 11/05/2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 671
Posted: 08:45am 28 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

They will be available soon. I have boards now, but haven't worked out the distribution yet.
Prices will be quite reasonable.
http://rittle.org

--------------
 
Phil23
Guru

Joined: 27/03/2016
Location: Australia
Posts: 1667
Posted: 09:40am 28 May 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

  kiiid said   They will be available soon. I have boards now, but haven't worked out the distribution yet.
Prices will be quite reasonable.


Can say that Royal Mail seems fairly cheap & reasonable delivery times to Australia.
 
kiiid

Guru

Joined: 11/05/2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 671
Posted: 04:53am 01 Jun 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post


It is on


http://rittle.org

--------------
 
matherp
Guru

Joined: 11/12/2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 10310
Posted: 06:29am 01 Jun 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

kiiid

I really like the design of the board.

The key limitation for me is in the software.

Rather than inventing your own decriptor language (RDBL) why not use something like Protel or other already defined version

At the moment I use VeeCAD with stripboard. This has the huge advantage that I can import a netlist from a range of schematic design tools and then VeeCAD will check my layout against the netlist, identifying missing links, missing components, as well as links that shouldn't be there. Once I have a layout that checks out in VeeCAD I can be sure that the prototype will work (assuming the schematic is correct). If I need to change the design I can edit the schematic, re-import it to VeeCAD and then it will identify the changes I need to make to the prototype to bring it back in-line with the schematic. Once the prototype is working I can then use the same schematic to layout a dedicated PCB and I can be guaranteed it will work as long as I follow the design rule checking.

I can't imagine how much time I would have wasted by trying to design direct to the prototype. For me this is a showstopper at the moment but I would certainly move to your system with the sort of integration described above.


 
kiiid

Guru

Joined: 11/05/2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 671
Posted: 08:38am 01 Jun 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

I understand. After all this is only a first version of it. It is quite possible the software will support other formats in the future.
http://rittle.org

--------------
 
Bill7300
Senior Member

Joined: 05/08/2014
Location: Australia
Posts: 159
Posted: 09:54pm 01 Jun 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

I wanted to support several of the choices but it seems as if you can only make one pledge?
Bill
 
kiiid

Guru

Joined: 11/05/2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 671
Posted: 10:03pm 01 Jun 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

I am sorry, don't know how to allow more than one. It seems the limitation comes from Kickstarter itself.
http://rittle.org

--------------
 
isochronic
Guru

Joined: 21/01/2012
Location: Australia
Posts: 689
Posted: 12:18am 02 Jun 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

I think it (prototype layout language) is a brilliant idea !
It will of course be resisted by the pcb design program vendors though..

A standard form output file or array format, maybe even an xml would be good.
The programs that already have a scripting capacity could then incorporate it easily,
using a script in their own setup.

I can see a cheap quick-protype printer - feed it the board and it solders the
tracks on the spot ! Pity no smd yet though..
best of luck !

 
kiiid

Guru

Joined: 11/05/2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 671
Posted: 07:17am 02 Jun 2016
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Ah, yes. I can see that printer in my mind... Probably as a first step though I will try to think a small pen-like tool for placing bridges without the need of a soldering iron...
http://rittle.org

--------------
 
     Page 1 of 2    
Print this page
The Back Shed's forum code is written, and hosted, in Australia.
© JAQ Software 2025