If I said the arduino ran 10 times faster than picomite using mmbasic using similar code, would that be acceptable.
I blame UK TV ads where 2 times faster is used instead of twice as fast.
If a car overtakes another car, is the car overtaking going faster than the other car or is the other car going slower?
I reckon someone's got it infamy  

  Andrew_G said  

Hi All, and apologies to Stan (this is NOT directed to you).

Call me old-fashioned but I grew up in an era when the Queen/Kings' English was used and widely understood.

Can someone please explain (seriously) what "10 times slower" actually means, and how one derives that meaning.

Does it take 1/10th of the time - i.e. is actually faster or does it run at 1/10th of the speed - i.e. is actually slower?
Without knowing the derivation of this American slang I truly have no idea what is meant.

Many thanks,

Andrew

An Australian teaching me English. They use the word mate more than the English.
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/australian-slang-phrases/index.html

This isn't directed at Andrew cobber, have a few tinnys mate.
Edited 2022-09-04 03:22 by stanleyella

  Mixtel90 said  

As long as I don't have to use a "soddering" iron and "sodder" I'm fine. ;)

The "L" is superfluous and we should drop it. Get the "L" out of there!" I say.

using pixel to draw sprite or blit
how many times faster or slower?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhvg-39tgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SwoluBfOAI
old 8bit game using pset, which is pixel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPqrnG1NZ8o&t=14s
Speed test depends on real use not calculating prime numbers.
Edited 2022-09-04 05:10 by stanleyella

  toml_12953 said  

  Mixtel90 said  

As long as I don't have to use a "soddering" iron and "sodder" I'm fine. ;)

The "L" is superfluous and we should drop it. Get the "L" out of there!" I say.

I'm not moaning about the way you write replies sir but how is it that you don't get told off and I do? If I used American slang it would be Denzel Washington and I'd be banned.

Hi All - Happy Fathers' Day,
I hadn't intended to hijack the thread and certainly NOT introduce the US vs others distraction (the lack of this is one of the strengths of this forum).
I truly find the "10 times slower" to be ambiguous.
Yes, "Ten times faster" is not (OK: I know, I know, I know; BUT . . .).

As to zeitfest's question about my Edit vs an other post's timing, my edit was seconds after positing, I added a "?". The answer lies in the forum's interpretation of time, that is, AEST for my post and UTC/GMT for another's.

Cheers,

Andrew

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the forum's interpretation

I didn't know about that !
Maybe Gizmo could append the timezone to the post time listed. It would also be good to see the "Location" label changed to "Current location" I think.

You say "either" and I say "either"
You say "neither" I say "neither"
"Either" "either", "neither" "neither"
Let's call the whole thing off

You say "potato" I say "patattah"
You say "tomato" I say "tomatah"
Let's call the whole thing off

  Grogster said  

You say "either" and I say "either"
You say "neither" I say "neither"
"Either" "either", "neither" "neither"
Let's call the whole thing off

You say "potato" I say "patattah"
You say "tomato" I say "tomatah"
Let's call the whole thing off

Agreed! When I comment on the difference between American English and English (AKA The King's English) I do it in a light-hearted manner. I'd never want to get people from one of America's few real friends in the world mad!

As far as 10 times slower, I asked around and it usually means it takes 10 times longer.

Example:

Process A: 5 seconds
Process B: 50 seconds

Everyone I asked would say either "Process B is 10 times slower than process A." or "Process A is 10 times faster than process B."

They're synonymous to everyone I asked here in the US.

I've had my moments as an Englishman in the US:

Me: "you can't"
American: "you called me a what?"  


Craig

Americans think because we say cheers we are all alcoholics :)

Just my own 2c on this, I have always interpreted "10 times slower" as something taking ten times the speed of the original reference point.  IE: It takes ten times LONGER to complete, then the original reference point. But that is just me.  We each have different ways of defining some things like this, so I understand why there can be ambiguity in certain statements.

Nothing wrong with clarifying the differences in spoken language, just so long as everyone knows it is all done in a light-hearted way - which is one of the reasons I use so many smilies in my posts.  I don't want anyone to take something I post the wrong way, which is VERY easy to do with plain text, and one of the main reasons that smilies exist - so use them!

I fully acknowledge that "Sodder" for solder annoys me, but only cos I grew up here in Kiwi Land.  Had I grown up in America, I would also say "Sodder", so it's all that potato/potatah thing from that classic song lyric I quoted above.  

Hey, the American members here probably think the way WE pronounce solder is odd for the same reason!  

I'm just delighted there are so many different countries represented here on this forum.  We have members from all over the place, which is great to see.  
Edited 2022-09-05 12:53 by Grogster

More confusing things:

next Thursday (or any other day)

(some people would just use Thursday for the next one, so next Thursday is the one after)

dinnertime

(cf lunchtime not to mention dinner lady - now non-PC)

John

  JohnS said  

next Thursday (or any other day)

Couldn't agree more, I hate that "next" construct and strive to avoid it at all possible costs.

Best wishes,

Tom

  JohnS said  

More confusing things:

next Thursday (or any other day)

(some people would just use Thursday for the next one, so next Thursday is the one after)

dinnertime

(cf lunchtime not to mention dinner lady - now non-PC)

John

 

Tea-time. If you mean brew-time, yeah but evening meal? WTF!  

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An Australian teaching me English

AFAIK Andrew_G is from England    ( apologies if I am wrong - no offence intended.)

But Brits discussing prescribed English, could go on for well, centuries...
To the rest of the world, it can be fairly irrelevant, and ultimately annoying.

Please form a queue and discuss it amongst yourselves  

My mother rang a bell to signal dinnertime when we were out in the yard (because she didn't like yelling). Lunchtime can be used for running errands, not just eating lunch.

Music Man, "Trouble in River City": "I say your young men'll be fritterin'!
Fritterin' away their noontime, suppertime, choretime too!"

Hi zeitgeist et al,
Sorry to disappoint you but I'm a dinky die, true blue Australian. Living in Melbourne.
I did live in Manchester for three years and have worn out several passports since.

Regards,

Andrew

  Andrew_G said  

Hi zeitgeist et al,
Sorry to disappoint you but I'm a dinky die, true blue Australian. Living in Melbourne.
I did live in Manchester for three years and have worn out several passports since.

Regards,

Andrew

My father's family emigrated from Manchester UK to Australia in the early 1960's when it cost £1. I wonder how the Australians responded to the Manchester accent. It sounds like the accents used on Coronation Street.
My mother was from Hull. They moved to South Wales where I was born and where the native language is Welsh.
Is that spoken in New South Wales?
Northern English people do not say "have a look at this book" they say" have a luke at this buke"
Or "I am eating my dinner" it is "I be having me dinner"

Then there are people called "Geordies" and remember how the Beatles spoke.. Liverpudlians :)

Is vive la difference appropriate?

Do people really not understand my posts? If so I will try my best to accommodate them.
I do not speak like Data from startrek. This is the first forum where my grammar has been criticised.
More than once.  
Edited 2022-09-06 02:05 by stanleyella

  stanleyella said  

Northern English people do not say "have a look at this book" they say" have a luke at this buke"
Or "I am eating my dinner" it is "I be having me dinner"

I'm "Northern English" and I can say that such generalities are complete twaddle and these are cliches that should be reserved for the Four Yorkshiremen sketch.

Best wishes,

Tom
Edited 2022-09-06 01:38 by thwill