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Mixtel90 Guru  Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7735 |
As I said, PSRAM is necessary for some things, but for most people, most of the time it won't be used. It seems silly to use it as a standard if it breaks the logical upgrade path from Pico to Pico 2. If you write software that needs it then you have to bear in mind that you are locking out the majority of users, at least until Raspberry Pi produce a "Pico 3" or something with integrated PSRAM and sell it through their distribution network (I discount the current crop of modules that only meet the standard Raspberry Pi Pico spec and can't be pushed). Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| mozzie Senior Member  Joined: 15/06/2020 Location: AustraliaPosts: 131 |
G'day, To add another 5c to the mix. Can someone please clarify the following, are we talking about the "Gaming Fraternity" dropping support for some platforms, or support for the platforms being dropped altogether? Whilst it is really up to Peter what platforms will go forward and what will be dropped, I would also like the following to be considered: (And this is in NO WAY a complaint) At this point we have: The original MicroMite that stopped at 5.05.05 MMB4DOS that stopped at 5.05.05 The CMM2 that got to 5.07.02 (I think as I dont own one) MMB4WIN that stopped at 5.07.03 Pico RP2040 that may stop at 6.00.02 Pico RP2350 that may keep going past 6.00.02 The problem then becomes trying to remember what platforms are compatible with what commands. Adding another fork between RP2040 and RP2350 just adds further confusion, and confused is my default state these days....  As someone who has no interest in using the Picomite for "Gaming", my own base platforms are: PicoMite (standard) PicoMite HDMI (non USB) As these can (one day) be built into something with an LCD or HDMI display with the least support components. Once again, just my 5c Regards, Lyle. |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7735 |
All versions of the PicoMiteRP2040 will freeze development after the next release as there's no way to push it any further. There is no HDMI facility on the original Pico. The PicoMiteRP2350 will continue in development. There is a list in the latest preliminary release of the manual that shows all the various options. At the moment I think Peter is considering continuing development of all versions of the PicoMiteRP2350. This thread started off with whether he should or not. :) Note that the break would only be in further development of the RP2040-based systems, not abandoning them. There may still be maintenance updates just as there are for some of the other platforms. I'm not a "gamer" either, so I know what you mean. :) I still want to be able to use LCD, VGA and PS2 for some things and HDMI and USB for others. I suspect that further development will mainly be to push the graphics capabilities of HDMI so it's not going to affect me much as I only tinker in software rather than write anything meaningful! To date I've never used layers, sprites, more than 16 colours or more than a couple of MATH commands. lol Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| Amnesie Guru Joined: 30/06/2020 Location: GermanyPosts: 554 |
Hello, the whole PSRAM thing (at least for me!) is total nonsense. The actual picoMite firmware, if bugs are fixed, is just perfect. There is no need for more and even more. Let's appreciate what we can do with it! I think the whole picoMite story should come to an end with this version. BUT: this does not mean that I am against further development at all. My dream would be something like MMBASIC for the Raspberry Pi 5 or Zero with ALL it's capability in terms of power for graphics. I think this would be the right thing, instead of squeezing stones with the pico. A nice bonus would be to make MMBASIC work with the Raspberry Pi 5 / Zero GPIO. As an "dead end" I see all the STM-chip versions like the CMM2 - just too pricy, period. I think my theory is proven by the fact that the picoMite is MUCH more prominent because of the extreme low prices. And has ANYONE ever here mentioned that Raspberry Pi has an impressive obsolescence policy? I think the future definitly is raspberry pi, not STM. But as said: this is only my point of view. Greetings Daniel Edited 2025-06-12 02:23 by Amnesie |
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| PhenixRising Guru Joined: 07/11/2023 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1278 |
There is already SmallBASIC for up to Pi4 and the Zero |
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