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Grogster

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Hi all.

I seem to recall a while back, people playing about with ESP series WiFi modules on their MM chips.

I THINK they were this module here:

LINK...

...but I might be totally wrong.

I seem to also recall people posting about how there was a different firmware that the community had written(not the MM community) you could upload which was better then the firmware they came with or something like that.

Can someone here please help to refresh my memory on this?
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Poppy

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Just generally look up here:

ESPBASIC
www.esp8266basic.com

Annex WI-FI RDS (ESP8266)
https://sites.google.com/site/annexwifi/

and:
https://www.thebackshed.com/forum/ViewTopic.php?TID=11285&P=1

I don´t know where the MM-Issues are.


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Grogster

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DANKE!

Yah, dis ist gud!

Just what I wanted to know.  Lots of information.
It would seem that I did have the correct module, but I will read more on the ESPBASIC website - thanks.  

Opps - sorry - danke!  



Grüße.

PS: Sorry.  I still suck at German.  I continue to learn though.....
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palcal

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I have just ordered some modules, I have been reading through Cicciocb's site
Here . It's all new to me but I seem to be making sense of it.
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  Grogster said  

PS: Sorry.  I still suck at German.  I continue to learn though.....


Macht ja nix!

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Grogster

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Oh God.....lost.....  

I could have looked this up on Google Translate, but I prefer to draw on my own brain - and it replied with: "Function not defined."  

Scheiße.

Yes, yes - I learned the "Bad" words first!!!!  

Will look up tomorrow, if I can't decipher it by then.
I LOVE this language.  The audio sound of it, is fantastic.
I get the feeling I have many more years to go to get this right!

I am looking for a local German tutor though.

........but I digress - sorry everyone.
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lizby
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ESP-01 I think has been most frequently used: ESP-01 (As on matherp's H7 backpack)

If using AT commands, ESP8285 has a more convenient pinout: ESP8285

But if you want to reflash the 8285 with upgraded AT firmware or Annex RDS, you have to deal with the Flash pin, GPIO0, being on the side.

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Edited 2020-06-10 22:08 by lizby
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  Grogster said  Oh God.....lost.....  

I could have looked this up on Google Translate, but I prefer to draw on my own brain - and it replied with: "Function not defined."  


I got as far as

Ja = yes
Nix = Nichts(?) = not

does a "Syntax Error" beat a UDF?  
 
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After two years of studying German in school, the only thing I remember is:

Ich weiß nicht.

I must must have replied with that phrase a million times in class.

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Youse guys are too much. Most native English speakers think they can speak German because English was derived from medieval Anglo Saxon plus German plus French (after the Norman invasion). But it doesn't work that way.

Mein Großvater Otto Sebbes kam in den 1890er Jahren aus Bremerhaven, damals in Preußen. Aber er sprach Plattdeutsche, was kein modernes Deutsch ist.

Ok ... don't bother trying to dope that out. I think it means "My grandfather, Otto Sebbes, came from Bremerhaven in the 1890s, which was then in Prussia. But, he spoke Plattdeutsche which is not modern German".

The funniest thing I ever saw was when ganddad's cousin came to NY in the 1940s and tried to carry on a conversation in 1940s Deutsch. They gave up and switched to English.

Paul in NY, wo fast jeder ein Köter ist.
Paul in NY where almost everyone is a mutt.
 
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haha  " i dunno"  ich weiß nicht.

@paul_L even not every German can understand "Plattdeutsch".

gtx
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  Paul_L said  

Paul in NY, wo fast jeder ein Köter ist.
Paul in NY where almost everyone is a mutt.


Thanks, a new word to me!


  Plasmamac said  

@paul_L even not every German can understand "Plattdeutsch".



"Plattdeutsch" (= Low German Language) is a generic term for all kinds of local dialects (= colloquial), which can differ from each other easily so much that different users from different parts of Germany cannot understand each other.

e.g.:

in Bavaria = "Bayrisch"
around the City of Cologne = "Kölsch"
around the City of Krefeld (where the founders of "Germantown"/Philadelphia, Pennsylvania came from) = "Krieewelsch"

... digging some deeper you can find strong influences in "Krieewelsch" from the french and the "dutch" language, because of the close neighbourhood to the Netherlands and caused by Napoleon´s occupation of the Rhineland about 200 years ago.

As much as I know the word "dutch" originally did not mean "from the Netherlands" but simply "deutsch" = "german".
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robert.rozee
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another thread, using an esp8366 as a vt100 terminal emulator in a webpage:
https://www.thebackshed.com/forum/ViewTopic.php?TID=9871

with code here:
https://github.com/espterm/espterm-firmware


cheers,
rob   :-)
Edited 2020-06-12 01:59 by robert.rozee
 
Chopperp

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Has anyone made any progress with getting the modules going?

I'm not particularly interested in the German part of the post

Brian
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palcal

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I've got my module running with Annexe, flashed the chip and wrote a simple test program, but I want to use it to send emails and I'm stumped. I can't configure it to connect to my wifi router.
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Chopperp

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Hi palcal,

Any chance of sharing on what you did to get this far?

I haven't started playing with my board yet.

Brian
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palcal

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I didn't have to really do much, I downloaded Annnexe ran to Annexe Tool Kit and it is self explanatory really. Just connect the module and click a button to flash the module. Once that's done you connect to the module in your Browser by entering it's IP address. That is where I get stumped, to connect to the module you have to disconnect the internet and you can't send an email without internet. I wanted to use it to alert me by email of an alarm condition.
There is a page to configure the module to connect to your router but I got lost trying to do that. I'm not much good with anything web related.
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Chopperp

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OK. Thanks
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lizby
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I have a dozen or more ESP modules running, from older NodeMCU boards to ESP-01s, ESP D1 Minis, and ESP8285s bare and in Sonoff devices (and ESP32).

Some are in AT mode for providing wifi connection to other microprocessors (like PICAXE or matherp's H7 hat (haven't touched that in over a year, so don't ask)). Others I've flashed with Annex RDS. It's a quite powerful system. If you flash with the AnnexToolKit software and click the yellow button, it will ask you to provide your wifi SSID and password. Then you're good to be connected, and email is trivial.

The only real issue I've found with the ESPs is making sure you are supplying enough current--I run them using the 3V3 takeoff from an 18650 battery holder/charger. The D1 Minis are my favorites for just running as a microcontroller.

(I've also flashed them with Lua and Arduino C code, but after using Annex, I'd say "Don't bother".)
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