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bigmik

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GDay Rob, All,

  CircuitGizmos said   50% MORE color than bi-color!


The YELLOW is really quite impressive considering that the RED & GREEN LEDs are on and off alternately, ie RED is On when GREEN is off and vice versa.

I know there are RGB versions of the matrix modules but I think Curtis would have a heart attack if I asked him (actually I did) to try to get it to work.. it would mean 3 x MAX7219 chips and I doubt I could fit them onto the PCB, 2 was hard enough.. But I am also sure that the limitations of BASIC might make that task a bit too much to ask anyway.

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Justplayin

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RGB! Nope, not happening! I'm not going to do it!

Okay, maybe next week.


But seriously, I don't think MMBASIC can handle it and I'm sure I can't.

--Curtis
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donmck

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Recently I was given a Mik-Matrix by Big Mick. The hardware of the unit was put together by Mick and the software was written by Curtis Pratt.

In the 1980s, I produced a similar LED moving message board, initially mono, then later tri-colour. This was featured over 4 consecutive issues in Silicon Chip when they had just started their magazine.

I used a Z80 micro and wrote all of the software in machine language. A big task in those days.

When I saw the Mik-Matrix unit, it brought back memories of the enjoyable time I spent programming my devices. I had space invader characters, jumping crocodiles, ringing telephones, etc.

But the amount of hardware was much more expensive and much more involved than the maximite "Basic Program" unit with nice LED drivers, that the lads have come up with.

My only criticism is that doing it all in "Basic" is stretching the timing capabilities of the micro, and a nice C Driver needs to be written to top it off.

Mick showed me two versions of the LED displays. One version would almost burn your eyeballs in daylight conditions. :-)

I imagine these little displays could be used as a lapel name badge, or a message board in the back window of a car, either to warn the driver behind you to back off a little, or even as an enhancement to turn indicators and stop lamps.

Documentation can be seen at
http://www.dontronics.com/micks-mites/files/index.php?dir=11+Mik-Matrix%2F

Cheers Don...
Edited by donmck 2016-01-13
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Justplayin

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Mick,

Received the packet of Mites yesterday. I knew the NanoMites were small, but I was still shocked when I physically had one in my hand! It is smaller than my thumbnail! You are a master of miniaturization. Which explains how you were able to squeeze Mik-Matrix together to hide behind the LED module.

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bigmik

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Posted: 08:10pm 15 Jan 2016
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Hi Curtis, All,

  Justplayin said  You are a master of miniaturization. Which explains how you were able to squeeze Mik-Matrix together to hide behind the LED module.--Curtis


Hardly a master of miniaturisation, I think kiiid probably will take that one but then all tracking for the NanoMite was done on a 0.006" clearance and track widths and was at the limits of Shenzhen2U's design criteria.. (in fact I breached that on the `shorting' pads which are at 0.004" gaps, but they worked out OK) and the tracks were routed by hand not auto-routed..

As to the Mik-Matrix, I really was surprised at how hard it actually was to get all of the tracking done, for a while there I had 2 nets that would not fit, I was about to start pushing the track widths & gaps on it but I wanted to stick to 0.010" for each of these (5V and GND are thicker) but I finally got them routed through.. There was no room to move as I wanted the PCB to be the same size as the LED modules so the modules could butt up together.

Regards,

Mick


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cicciocb
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Hi Don and Mick,
you should have a look at this dotmatrix display on ebay .
It' a little bit difficult to deal with it but I think it could be interesting for you.

I already assembled one and interfaced with a pic32 and the result are not so bad; it could be brighter but it's very cheap!
I'm waiting for more units in order to make a larger display.


Regards,
CiccioCBEdited by cicciocb 2016-02-03
 
lew247

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None of the links are working here (I'm in the UK)
The main site dontronics.com works fine

  bigmik said   Hi All,



Introducing Mik-Matrix , a moving LED Message display.


Mik-Matrix Documentation


A 4minute Video clip of the DEMO program can be found >>>>>> HERE!!! <<<<<<


 
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  cicciocb said   . . . you should have a look at this dotmatrix display on ebay .


@cicciocb

Are the Matrix modules common Anode or common Cathode??

Thanks,
WW

EDIT: Just noticed the schematic and they look like common Anode! Edited by WhiteWizzard 2016-02-03
 
donmck

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  cicciocb said   Hi Don and Mick,
you should have a look at this dotmatrix display on ebay .
It' a little bit difficult to deal with it but I think it could be interesting for you.

I already assembled one and interfaced with a pic32 and the result are not so bad; it could be brighter but it's very cheap!
I'm waiting for more units in order to make a larger display.


Regards,
CiccioCB


Had to have a laugh at the description:
It is DIY kit. User need to weld it.

Cheers Don...
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donmck

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  lew247 said   None of the links are working here (I'm in the UK)
The main site dontronics.com works fine

  bigmik said   Hi All,



Introducing Mik-Matrix , a moving LED Message display.


Mik-Matrix Documentation


A 4minute Video clip of the DEMO program can be found >>>>>> HERE!!! <<<<<<




Mick asked me to change the location of the files.
missed it by a 's'
Location is in his signature now:
http://www.dontronics.com/micks-mite/files/

Cheers Don...


https://www.dontronics.com
 
cicciocb
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Hi,
I confirm that are common anode.
I confirm also that It is DIY kit. User need to weld it.

CiccioCB
 
bigmik

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Hi cicciocb, lew247, all,

Yes, I have looked at those displays, there is an RGB unit similar I have been looking at.

The problem is that I reckon it needs CFunction to get it to work, I can barely navigate basic let alone C..

It is because of the proliferation of modules like these that the common anode modules are so cheap but YES they are very dim, no doubt try to keep costs down to be competitive.

@lew, Sorry we had an issue with a 'free' counter (that shows how many visits my pages had) that decided that because it was free it could spit all manner of SPAM and SCAM pop ups. Due to Internet and browser cache the only way to fully kill it was to change the URL which seems to have fixed the problem..

The new URL is in my signature at the bottom of all of my messages... Sorry that I neglected to update this thread with the new details.

Regards,

Mick

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bigmik

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@Don,

Yes WELD the unit, I have a welder here, should I use the 20Amp or 40Amp setting? What diameter rods should I use to do the job..????





Mik
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CircuitGizmos

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  bigmik said   @Don,

Yes WELD the unit, I have a welder here, should I use the 20Amp or 40Amp setting? What diameter rods should I use to do the job..????





Mik


Rods? What a thug! This is fine electronics. You would use a wire feed MIG...


"The problem is that I reckon it needs CFunction to get it to work, I can barely navigate basic let alone C.. "

Actually it uses SPI, so it is completely accessible with MMBasic.




Micromites and Maximites! - Beginning Maximite
 
cicciocb
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Hi, if you want I can help you to make the program in C.

I already interfaced it with a pic32 so, if you want, I can send you the code.

Regards,
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bigmik

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Hi All,

I am pleased to blatantly advertise a new board! The Serial BackPack









This is a BackPack board for the I2C based 1306 OLED 0.96" displays (supports 2 different pinouts) and also supports the small, SPI 8pin TFT modules and NOKIA 5110 (although there are 2 pinouts for the NOKIA module it only supports one type)

The PCB is approx 28mm x 28mm square and has a PICMX170 SSOP uMite onboard. It is designed primarilly to accept commands via serial (com1 or com2) or the Console (all ports provided for via male headers). Of course it could run stand alone if you wish, although there are limited IO lines available.

I have priced the boards as below:

Serial BackPack
---------------

Option 1 Bare Board only ................................................. $2AUD
Option 1a 3x Bare Board only ............................................. $4AUD
Option 1b 6x Bare Board only ............................................. $7AUD
Option 1c 9x Bare Board only ............................................. $10AUD
1 x PIC32MX170 50MHz SSOP (Not programmed) ............................... $8AUD
1 set SMD's (1xAMS1117-33,4x100nf, 1x47uF, 1x10kohm 2x4k7ohm, 1x47R) ..... $2.50AUD/set


All details including manual can be found on my `Site'

There is a 5MB video clip showing it driving an OLED display and receiving commands from one of my MuPs in the link above that will show what it is designed to do.

Note! the clip shows it connected via a male/female header, it does look silly as the board and display are so small, I recommend after you are happy with your development directly soldering the Serial BackPack to the relevant display module.


Special Thanks goes to Peter Mather for the original C based driver and John Gerrard for poking me with a hot stick in the eye until I agreed to do the design for him, as Serial BackPack has come about as a direct result of his request.

Thanks also to John (JMAN) for allowing me to include his demonstration files on my `site' and to distribute with this board.

Kind Regards,

MickEdited by bigmik 2016-05-21
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drkl

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Posted: 07:57pm 19 May 2016
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Hi Mick,

Cool!!!

Best regards

drkl
 
JohnS
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Maybe worth adding the board's dimensions to one or more of the JPGs? The overlay maybe?

John
 
bigmik

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Posted: 09:19pm 19 May 2016
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Hi John,

I have mentioned the board is 28mm x 28mm (1.10") but I have to admit it doesn't register how small they are until you see them. I designed it to be the exact size of the 0.96" OLED modules but with the panelising it has added 0.5mm or so. It comes out as approx. 28mm square..

I sent one to Iliya (of Autotrax DEX fame) and he was shocked at its size because he has been using my pictures (above) in his demonstrations on the DEX forum and didnt realise its size.

It is so small it looks outright silly connecting to the display with male/female headers, see the Video clip Sample.MP4, on the link above.. You may have to download it to view it..

With my NanoMite (15mm square) I took a picture with a 5c coin and I reckon not one person realised how absolutely small they were until they had them in front of them.

Here it is with a few AUSTRALIAN coins for comparison.




Kind Regards,

Mick




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TassyJim

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Posted: 09:47pm 19 May 2016
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Showing off your wealth again Mick.
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