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thwill Guru  Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4240 |
Please stop posting pictures of "stuff" with "blinkenlights" my self-control is very low at the moment  Best wishes, Tom MMBasic for Linux, Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3298 |
Interesting. Does this suggest that with the ESP-01 socket, GP16 (UART0TX) may be Com1:Tx and GP17 (UART0RX) may be Com1:Rx? Or maybe COM2. I understand that it is all configurable, but for those who want it, some predictability could be useful, and actual hardware tends to lock in some choices. Regarding the audio on GP18 & GP19, is or can this be DAC-like? Will your implementation (or tests of it) use the GROVE # layout for I2C and the additional COM port? I note no provision without flying wires for ILI9341, ILI9486, ILI9488, etc. ~ Edited 2021-06-08 23:45 by lizby PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7458 |
ooohhhh..... that's rather nice... PicoPorn! It's no good, Tom, you can't fight it. You will be assimilated. :) Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7458 |
I wondered why MOSI/MISO hadn't been used too. Apparently Raspberry Pi chose Tx/Rx because the Pico can be either a master or a slave device and the terms change depending on which it is. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3298 |
It may also be because, however innocuously widespread in the tech world, the use of "slave" is now broadly deprecated. PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3298 |
Is there a reason why with LOAD fn,r fn must be a literal string and not a string variable? > load "hello.bas" > list Print "Hello, World" > load "hello.bas",r Hello, World > fn$="hello.bas" > load fn$,r Error : Could not find the file > PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4811 |
@Peter Is there a possibility (memory wise) to add MATH FFT ? The NAME command is in fact a RENAME. Why not use rename ? legacy ? Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 9992 |
a23 PicomiteV5.07.00a23.zip Big internal changes NAME changed to RENAME MATH FFT should now work - needs testing new command : COPY fname1$ to fname2$ PAUSE command improved |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 9992 |
a23 PicomiteV5.07.00a23.zip Big internal changes NAME changed to RENAME MATH FFT should now work - needs testing new command : COPY fname1$ to fname2$ PAUSE command improved |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7458 |
True, but I got my info from the book. :) I support MOSI and MISO, but I can see the problem when you come to labeling pins on a device that could be either the controller or the controlled. I don't think they had much choice given the circumstances. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4811 |
I will have time to look into the FFT over the weekend. Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3298 |
Running Paul_L's ta.bas benchmark, I note that reads take nearly 3 times as long as writes. Is this to be expected in the long run? Running on computer 'picomite' on 09-06-2021 at 08:54:13 Starting 1,000,000 iterations of empty loop ... Finished 1,000,000 iterations of empty loop in 12182.39ms or 0.0122 ms per iteration. Starting reading 100 line file 10,000 times ... Finished reading 100 line file 10,000 times in 635596.301ms or 0.6356 ms per iteration. Starting writing 1,000,000 line file ... Finished writing 1,000,000 line file in 222768.044ms or 0.2228 ms per iteration. Starting parse 9 strings from 100,000 strings ... Finished parse 9 strings from 100,000 strings in 115631.11ms or 0.1285 ms per iteration. Starting extracting the value from a string 1,000,000 times ... Finished extracting the value from a string 1,000,000 times in 61277.231ms or 0.0613 ms per iteration. Finished 4,900,000 iterations on computer 'picomite' in 1.047486242e+06ms or 0.2138 ms per iteration. PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| robert.rozee Guru Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 2396 |
to eliminate the confusion, why not change the pin allocation syntax to: OPTION SPI a, b, c OPTION SPI0 d, e, f OPTION SPI1 g, h, i OPTION SPI2 j, k, l OPTION SPI3 m, n, o etc. where a..o are pin numbers (GP0..GP22 or 1..40), and the option is NOT persistent. each OPTION SPIn... would replace three setpin commands, and the only reference to in/miso, out/mosi, clock, etc would be in the documentation. do the same for: I2C, I2C0, I2C1..I2Cn. the big advantage: you don't need to worry about 0-based or 1-based numbering. simply keep a pool of SPI and I2C interfaces, and when a configuration is specified, allocate the first unused interface in the pool that matches type and pins specified, which is thereafter bound to the SPIn or I2Cn label. once the OPTION... line is specified, the syntax would then follow what mmbasic has done in the past. ie, open the port with SPIn OPEN... or I2Cn OPEN... and proceed from there. cheers, rob :-) Edited 2021-06-09 22:40 by robert.rozee |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3298 |
With FLASH WRITE (rather than FLASH READ), this would also enable setting up the flash under program control--especially useful when we're reflashing the firmware so frequently and thus wiping out the program flash: pgm$(9)=("","menu.bas","bench.bas","speed.bas","grain.bas","ta.bas","","","","") for i=1 to 9: flash erase i: flash write i,pgm$(i): next i flash run 1 ~ Edited 2021-06-09 22:48 by lizby PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 9992 |
horses and stable doors - this is now fixed and I am using the Raspberry Pico pin nomenclature as described above |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7458 |
Personally I can't see a reduction in confusion there... I think you're trying to confuse my poor old brain cells. lol There's no compatibility with the way the Pico works, of course, and no compatibility with the way the Pico hardware is documented either. There's no real compatibility with the way MMBasic works either. It's not self-documenting like the Setpin system either. At least TX/RX tell you which pin has which direction. :) I was able to convert a 2014 I2C Micromite library to the Picomite by simply adding two SETPIN commands at the beginning. It's quite clear what I did and which pins were allocated to which functions - and the fact that I was allocating pins. I'd say that was a pretty elegant solution. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| robert.rozee Guru Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 2396 |
we're still in alpha... we need all syntax to be as clean as possible, so that mmbasic for pi pico becomes as popular as MicroPython  cheers, rob :-) |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7458 |
@matherp Is there a possibility of enabling the GP24 (possibly as Pin(VBUS)) and ADC3 (Pin(VSYS)) inputs eventually? They would be very useful for battery powered installations. I was thinking of data logging. Probably not much use for the RTC as I think the current consumption is rather high. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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atmega8 Guru Joined: 19/11/2013 Location: GermanyPosts: 722 |
Hello, is there any documentation for the picomite? Is it running on top of linux, in a shell? THX |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7458 |
There's no linux for the Pico (yet). It's a microcontroller rather than a computer so there's no OS as such. Normally it's programmed in C/C++ but Raspberry Pi have mad MicroPython (Python 3) available for it as the "adopted standard" for high-ish level programming. There is a lot of very good documentation: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/rp2040/getting-started/ There is also a beginners book (but still useful) on MicroPython: https://hackspace.raspberrypi.org/books/micropython-pico . . Edited 2021-06-10 07:52 by Mixtel90 Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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